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#113508 01/30/13 10:50 AM
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I cant wait for this!

Opinions!

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/


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On the grand scale of things, our sampling data is somewhat limited in scope I think. Yeah, 650k years is a long time, but not considering the planets age.

Just think, that line will go back down once the human species dies off :D

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Neglecting the fact that you're comparing ice core samples to actual atmospheric measurements (which is apples and oranges) that's a great bit whopping change of, drum roll please....

.007% OMG

Any boob with Excel can make a hockey stick looking chart as long as you get to make up a 'y' axis...

What about Arkh's 500 million year graph, showing 3 or 4 different models that all indicate a drastic decline over the last 100 million or so? Does his mean less than yours?


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Originally Posted By: Kaotic
Any boob with Excel can make a hockey stick looking chart as long as you get to make up a 'y' axis...


The thing about these boobs is that they send people to the moon and land robots on Mars. I tend to give them some extra credit when they make a statement.

I know you guys are all smarter than the vast majority of scientists so maybe this is a moot point. Jesus is coming soon so what does it matter anyways.


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Originally Posted By: JetStar
Originally Posted By: Kaotic
Any boob with Excel can make a hockey stick looking chart as long as you get to make up a 'y' axis...


The thing about these boobs is that they send people to the moon and land robots on Mars. I tend to give them some extra credit when they make a statement.

I know you guys are all smarter than the vast majority of scientists so maybe this is a moot point. Jesus is coming soon so what does it matter anyways.


I heard those did too: http://www.therightclimatestuff.com/


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Originally Posted By: SOURCE
Summary of the opinions from climate / earth scientists regarding climate change.
The Doran & Zimmerman study was done for a master's thesis and involved a 9-question survey. The 2009 peer reviewed publication that followed the study reported on 2 of the 9 questions. The study found, in part, that 96.4% of "climatologists who are active publishers on climate change" agree that mean global temperatures have risen "compared with pre-1800s levels", and that 97.4% (75 of 77) agree that human activity "is a significant contributing factor" in temperature change. The study concludes the distribution of answers to those survey questions implies that debate on the "role played by human activity is largely nonexistent" amongst climate experts.
The 97.4% result reflects the opinions of 77 individuals selected out of a total of 3,146 self-selected respondents based on a total population of 10,257 individuals who were invited to participate in the survey.
Doran & Zimmerman 2009 source:
http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf
The Anderegg et al 2010 source defined a scientist's expertise as determined by his or her number of climate publications. The top 50 scientists considered CE ("convinced by the evidence" in the terminology of the authors) wrote an average of 408 articles each which were submitted to and successfully published by climate journals. Scientists were counted as UE ("unconvinced by the evidence") if having signed a public "statement strongly dissenting from the views of the IPCC." That resulted in a list of 472 UE scientists, of whom 5 were among the 200 most-published scientists in the study's sample, amounting to 2.5% when the other 195 (97.5%) were counted as CE.
That study's sample included 903 scientists counted as CE ("convinced by the evidence"). Scientists were assumed to be CE when in the list of those credited by the IPCC as having done research utilized by AR4 Working Group I. Such an assumption resulted in a list of 619 names, which, after adjusting for duplication, became a total of 903 when also adding in those who signed one of several statements supporting the IPCC.
The results presented in this study are based on a compiled researcher list which the authors describe as being "not comprehensive nor designed to be representative of the entire climate science community."
Anderegg 2010 source:
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/06/04/1003187107.full.pdf
http://www.pnas.org/content/suppl/2010/06/07/1003187107.DCSupplemental/pnas.201003187SI.pdf


Looks pretty settled to me.


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Originally Posted By: JetStar
Jesus is coming soon so what does it matter anyways.


Exactly, everybody knows Earth is only 6000 years and Rapture going to happen any day now.


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Originally Posted By: JetStar



Worth pointing out that exactly none of those categories even add up to 100%, and one even adds up to 101%.

This just in, 101% of scientists can't agree on anything.

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Originally Posted By: Brutal
Worth pointing out that exactly none of those categories even add up to 100%, and one even adds up to 101%.

This just in, 101% of scientists can't agree on anything.



I'll go with the lowest of 82% vs the highest of 6% any day!


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Originally Posted By: sini
Originally Posted By: JetStar
Jesus is coming soon so what does it matter anyways.


Exactly, everybody knows Earth is only 6000 years and Rapture going to happen any day now.




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