Originally Posted By: sini
Originally Posted By: Sethan

I see where you are going with the insurance on firearms situation but I still do not agree with it at all. That opens the door for all kinds of abuse on your 2nd amendement rights. It may sound innocent at the start but will become a tool to abuse your right to bear arms. I could use some extreme examples like having to ensure your freedom of speech since it can get you punched in the nose or killed for saying the wrong thing.



I understand your concerns, but how else could you force average clueless Joe to be responsible in ownership, storage of guns and ammunition? How would you make gun industry design safer products? Guns can be made safer, but there is zero incentive to do so and we can't legislate safety into guns. The only feasible way I see it happening - if there is a demand for safer product because it is cheaper to insure. It worked for cars, why not try it with guns?


I don't know if I have the answer for average clueless Joe. Average clueless Joe really pisses me off and makes us all look bad in more areas of life than just firearms. This is the same Joe who crashes his jacked up SUV into a McDonalds while driving drunk and trying to buy a Big Mac with a diet Coke.

My point is you cannot punish responsible people because clueless Joe is a fucking retard who doesnt follow the rules.



The industry already makes a tool that will remain safe 100% of the time if you follow their guidelines. It is rare to find a gun that harmed someone because of a mechanical failure. Even with a mechanical failure, 100% of gun accidents would be prevented by following the 4 rules below.

1.All guns are always loaded.
2.Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3.Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.
4.Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


Last edited by Sethan; 01/15/13 12:43 PM.